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Clarence Thomas Was More Fun When He Was Drunk

Lillian McEwen, ex-ladyfriend of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, went on Larry King's show recently to dish, dish, dish about all the things you never wanted to know about Thomas. More on his love of porn! More on his non-relationship with Anita Hill! More on their relationship! Has anyone given McEwen her book deal yet? What's the market for decades old sexual dirt on a Supreme Court Justice no one really likes very much?

Anyway ... best part of the interview, McEwen recounts how getting sober made Thomas a much, much worse person to be around. DRY DRUNKS! They ruin everything!

More after the jump.

In Clarence Thomas' autobiography he wrote about how he had a serious problem with alcohol (he was a drunk) and how he quit cold-turkey in the early 80s. Quitting drinking when you have a drinking problem is always awesome, but quitting drinking without going through therapy or "working the steps" can sometimes be a nightmare for those who you hurt with your drinking. Have you ever met a "dry drunk?" They are some of the most ornery, selfish, rude SOBs ever. At least when they were drunk they were sometimes nice to be around. NO MORE! They just miss that bottle SO MUCH! How could it let them down? Oh well, guess it's time to spend years making everyone around me miserable because I'm so angry about not being drunk anymore.

Nothing Lillian McEwen said about Clarence Thomas, dry drunk, on Larry King was super shocking to me. (I know a couple dry drunks and I know folks who are addicts who've gone through therapy or Alcoholic's Anonymous and found peace. Believe me. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!) Most people who are alcoholics are that way due to a combination of emotional issues and genetics. If you never deal with those emotional issues ... well, I pray for the people who love you.

If you want to see the entire video or just read the transcript, Crooks & Liars has a pretty good recap. And if you think McEwen is bitter, you're probably right. But, dude, she's got commentary for days and she's been sitting on this for more than 20 years so ...


My favorite quote from the interview was one explaining Thomas' thought process and political beliefs. That it all really boils down to personal vendettas, not actual political reasoning. And if you read his book, you would have figured this out as well. He's not so much a conservative because he had some grand mental turnaround. A Republican was one of the first people to give him a job as a lawyer after he was treated roughly in college and couldn't find work. And ... that's about it. This is about the kindness of moderate Missouri Republican John Danforth and the perception that Thomas was wronged or let down by others. The whole first half of the book he hates white people with a red, hot passion. Then Danforth hires him, is supportive and nice to him and suddenly his perception of the world changes ... but not really. The whole book he seethes with resentment towards all sorts of people for grievances both real and imagined.

Anyway ... that quote:

His decisions to me can be very simply explained. And the explanation, I think, for the originalism, for the stark conservatism, for the disparate treatment of different kinds of groups is simply this: he is rewarding those people that he thinks are his friends. He is also punishing those people he thinks are his enemies.

Bitter or no. The woman knows Thomas only in the way someone who dated you for years would know you. As in, she pretty much has the guy down cold.

I swear, Ginni Thomas. You thought you were helping. Well ... you might help Lillian get a book deal so, I'm sure she appreciates that.

(H/T Gawker)

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Reader Comments (15)

Hey Danielle! I've been reading your blog for a couple of months now, but this is my first time commenting on one of your posts. You're so right about the Dry Drunk thing. My entire family from my father's side, including my father, is composed of drunks, so it's basically in my genes. I went through the getting drunk stage when I was about 16 and I quickly became an addict myself. I would carry a bottle of orange juice laced with vodka to school everyday and I even had a secret stash of alcohol hidden in drawers in my room. I had to be buzzed wherever I went. The time soon came when my alcohol supply ran low and I had no means of restocking. Since I was 16, I couldn't go buy it and all the people I relied on to supply me with alcohol either moved or were arrested. When I reached the stage of being completely dry, I was OBSESSED with alcohol. That's all I could think about 24/7. I soon became mean, angry and belligerent to everyone around me. If they couldn't help me get alcohol, I saw no use to having them around. It wasn't fun. I didn't go through the 12 Step Program. I didn't even go through the abstaining willingly. But I did and now I'm better. It's been 4 years since I've tasted any type of alcohol and I intend for it to stay that way. Good for Justice Clarence Thomas for shunning alcohol. Maybe he could have done it more efficiently but as long as he did it and he's better for it, there's no point in criticizing him.

October 26, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKendall

Good for him. He is not an alcoholic. RahRahSisBoomBah. But let's be real...You can be mad at the world, but don't be mad at the world and making decisions that affect the lives of millions for GENERATIONS TO COME.

October 26, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJD

oooo, big revelations. he liked liquor. he liked porn. he held grudges. oooo.

October 26, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterLOL

Another great post!
You are spot on re: the Dry Drunk.

EVERYONE who abuses Any substance is simply "Self-Medicating."
I find it stunning that people, including some so-called experts, don't get that.
The real "problem" is Why are they "medicating." What are they trying to mentally escape?

If it was a physical ailment, taking away medicine from a sick person and expecting them to be well wouldn't make any sense. It makes no sense with substance abuse either. That's why "Rehab" so often fails.

It's the long, hard, slow work of therapy (AA is a type of group therapy) that deals with the underlying mental issues is the only way that makes lasting change.

RE: Uncle Thomas -- yep. McEwen nailed him cold.
And Instant Karma was served up to Ginni Thomas! LOL!

October 26, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterurnumbersix

Her article mentioned that she had a manuscript ready, was hesitant as to the timing, and when Mrs. Thomas decided to call Ms. Hill, the lady decided the time was right.

October 26, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterleah e.

Well we learned that from "W". LOL But really I didn't like the S.O.B. when I first saw his face on TV at those hearings. I deeply believed then as I do now that he said and did all the Ms. Hill said he did. His kind loves to do that sort of thing and have very little respect for women of color anyway. The idea that he will remain on the bench until he retires or his case DIES does not make me a happy camper. He is what is there to represent Black Americans and no one else will have that chance until after someone is there to represent Asians in this nation. That is a hard pill to get down. He does absolutely nothing for to him, we are all Anita Hill. The idea that he climbs into bed every night with a woman who has shown a side of herself that is a real turn off to me, is beleveable for his type. So everyone who kept suggesting that perhaps President Obama would look at a Black woman, certainly should have known that our turn will not come around again until there is representation for Asian as well as Native Americans. We are stuck with this self hating S.O.B. I've been unhappy with that every since he was appointed and I suppose I'll go to my grave unhappy about it. To replace Thurgood Marshall with this.....whatever the word;was a slap in the face to that representative and to Blacks in America in my opinion.

October 26, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterkhrish

Wow. George HW Bush sure did screw America when he nominated Clarence Thomas to replace Thurgood Marshall. SMDH

October 26, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterSandy

More insanity! what the hell do you do about a chief justice who has a job for life and may be deciding cases based on whether it's rewarding those people that he thinks are his friends and punishing those who aren't". I remembrer Toni Morrison saying that while she may not agree with his politics and have serious issues with the anita hill situation, one of the biggest problems with clarence thomas was that he was never described or thought of as brillant and that should have been the first requirement for someone essentially taking Thurgood Marshall spot. I alway thought he was a major dud & an embarrassment but the idea that he's substituting bitterness and revenge for reasoned "sober" legal thought is just frightening.

October 26, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterdl

Well said Khrish I agree. I wish she had enough dirt on him to make him just step down altogether.

@LOL you are right liking porn etc… is not enough some of these politicians still do cocaine and are making decisions, running for office, harassing women and ruining their victims careers and businesses, taking corporate bribes in all forms including do nothing high paying jobs etc… I wish more women would write books to expose these men, so good normal folk could have their chance to win office.

October 26, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterMary

Lillian must have been in a drunken haze the whole 5 years she was with Clarence. I am sorry but there is not enough alcohol or drugs in this entire world to do him even one time much less for 5 years. Even if she makes money on this book, there is just not enough money in this Universe to make up for having to be with him for even one night. YukkkkkKKKKKKKK. I think I’d rather just die. I hope she does not go into any sexual details in her book, because inquiring minds really do not want to know that much info or picture any of that…….

October 26, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterMary

I'd buy it in a heartbeat, what is the most important thing she said which some people on here are not getting while they comment on alcoholism, and other random non sequiturs is "His lack of intellectual curiosity and inability to focus and read!" For those of you who haven't gone to law school, you spend hours on briefs and when you prepare for an appellate case it is a minimum of 20 pages. Most serious cases have boxes and boxes of documents, complaints, final decisions from prior courts, legal cases as references.

It is incredibly serious to know that this man has LIFETIME tenure to make decisions about our lives and he lacks intellectual curiosity and attentiveness!! I know that's why Anita Hill came out to try and stop him, in addition to his being sexist, and self hating.

I also caught how she said he bullied his child, not pretty and she was intelligent enough to not bring him into her house with her own child. I respect her for that.

Hope she gets a big fat contract and writes a big juicy book with photos.

October 27, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterbdsista


"... and writes a big juicy book with photos."

Oh Lawd I HOPE NOT!!! *gags*

October 27, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterMommieDearest

Many, many women (NOT me personally) are V attracted to/intrigued by men who have power/money/influence. However, such a man (looks GOOD on paper) is NOT for every woman. There are women who STILL care about values out there! Five yrs is a LOOOOONG time, so I'm sure this woman has a LOT of dirt. And these days, dirt pays!

October 27, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterEmma

I think I was more fun when I drank too. Sobriety can be over-rated. Hee, hee

October 27, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Wise

"Shame is not something that can stop this man."


September 30, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterthelady
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