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Friday
18Sep2009

Latinos, Others United Against Lou Dobbs

Somebody doesn't like Lou Dobbs. I would say that NOBODY likes Lou, but I'm sure there are still those who find his rantings and ravings muy interesante. I don't. And neither do these people.

More after the jump.

From Roberto Lovato's column on Huffington Post:

For years, Dobbs and CNN banked on the fact that many of the Latinos who bear the brunt of his systematic media assaults--Spanish-speaking immigrants--were unaware of the threat that Dobbs posed. (Not surprisingly, CNN does not translate Dobbs for broadcast on its CNN en Espanol network). But all of that is changing; Latinos are increasingly making the connection between racism in the media and discrimination in their hometowns, and coming to a simple, yet historic conclusion: Lou Dobbs is the Most Dangerous Man for Latinos in America.

Which is why, today, Presente.org (of which I am a founding member) is joining with Latino organizations throughout the United States demanding that CNN get rid of Dobbs. And we are not alone. In the coming weeks, CNN President Jon Klein will be inundated by a growing national chorus of calls from www.bastadobbs.com and others demanding his network to stop promoting Dobbs' brand of "news." From a Latino perspective, Klein and CNN must respond if they are to maintain any semblance of credibility in the Latino media market. If CNN doesn't live up to its claim to being the "most trusted name in news" it risks losing out on the fastest growing viewing demographic in the country.

What's gotten those bees in their bonett? The kind of thing that should piss anyone who hates racism off. Dobbs has been spending his time with FAIR, the Federation for American Immigration Reform. And while the name of the org sounds innocuous, the group just happens to be founded by an individual labeled as a white nationalist hate-mongerer and the group is listed as a hate group by Morris Dees' Southern Poverty Law Center.

So ... Lou Dobbs (who happens to have a Latina wife) is hanging out with folks who basically think his Latina wife is inferior to them in just about every form imaginable and would like to pack her up in a box and ship her back to Mexico. Classy.

Well, Dobbs has been doing his radio show from FAIR's national lobbying conference this week and many Latino groups have decided they've had all they can stand and they can't stand anymore.

The movement to drop Dobbs marks a critical shift in the direction of Latino activism in the United States. It was previewed in 2006, when media and technology helped move thousands to march through the streets, waving flags, beating drums and demanding change. And now, as the destructive role that the national media can play in spreading myths and misinformation becomes painfully clear, we are witnessing a new age of Latino media activism. These battles will be fought through Internet organizing, on cell phones via text messaging, and on blogs as much as in the streets. Paradoxically, we have no one to thank for this new movement more than Lou Dobbs. The Most Dangerous Man for Latinos in America may do as much as anyone to unite us in our ongoing struggle for civil rights.

I think Dobbs is an asshat, so I'm all for this Most Dangerous Man for Latinos in America label. Now, if you can get him off my teevee just who do I make the check out to?

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Reader Comments (45)

What right leaning group isn't listed as a hate group by Morris Dees' Southern Poverty Law Center? The you are a racist if you oppose illegal immigration meme is even older and more worn out than the all Obama protesters are racists meme.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterScott

I'm not always for political correctness, but Lou Dobbs says such awful things about Mexicans that it breaks my heart to know that there are people who agree with him. He inflames xenophobic tendencies. He's not just against the idea of illegal immigration, but the immigrants themselves and their families, whom he thinks of as scum.

Too much hate on TV.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterVanessa

I wouldn't think that being against illegal immigration makes anyone a racist--except if they only seem to be worried about illegal immigrants who are not white. Does Dobbs always/only focus on brown, spanish speaking folks or does he single out other groups too?

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterVcat

Scott: Not all Obama protesters are racist (though most seem at the very least hypocritical and ill-informed). But some certainly are.

Likewise, some opponents of illegal immigration have been whipped up by twisted statistics that allow them to blame many of America's problems on immigrants, and others just don't like to see the changing demographics of our country. This has always been so. But policy should be written in a humanitarian, reform-minded way, and when people start thinking of their neighbors as enemies, or the Other, it impedes our ability to improve the system.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterVanessa

That boring old guy? Gee, I never kept the channel on long enough to hear words come out of his mouth. I'll need to watch this week and see what the hubbub is about.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered Commentermalted_tea

he says things about ILLEGAL immigrants. not ones who came here legally.

good grief. hit dogs will holler.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterswiv

Dobbs uses the illegals as a whipping post to jack up his ratings by exploiting xenophobic fears. I still can't get over his Mexican-American wife accepting his behavior. That's like a black woman being married to the head of the John Birch Society.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Wise

Even the words we use-- "ILLEGAL" immigrants-- have an impact on the discussion we have.

I'm in favor of calling those people "undocumented" immigrants, so as not to imply they are criminals. Not having the right papers isn't a situation worthy of your anger.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterV

V:

If you are here without the proper papers then you are here illegally by definition. The left doesn't like to use the word illegal b/c they refuse or can't acknowledge that the illegals are in fact in the US illegally. Yes the situation is worth anger when it costs US taxpayer money. Dobbs also spends more time talking about Hispanic illegals b/c they make up the largest single group.

David:

You are confusing racism with opposing illegal immigration. It is the similar to people confusing opposition to Obama with racism.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterScott

I enjoy Lou. He talks about illegal immigrants, not legal ones. I applaud him for saying what so many people what to, but can't.

As a black woman, I really do not like the way many of the illegal (hell even legal) Latinos treat black people. They will kill you if you walk certain areas in California and NY. If you are here illegal and I have to pay for you, you are breaking the law and should go. Period.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterSpelmanGirl

Undocumented immigrants are job-seeking people-- often economic refugees-- who live amongst us. You do not "pay for them" aside from through your taxes (which are very low in the United States), which is how we all pay for improvements to our community. Most undocumented immigrants do in fact pay taxes from their wages, and there is debate about whether they contribute more than they "take" in school services and emergency hospital visits. Do you begrudge children brought up in America a public education, or a person injured on the job in America treatment? I would not.

I respect and support minority rights in America, for black, latino and white people. SpelmanGirl, do you see the bigotry in what you wrote above? Let me flip it for you so that you do:

"As a Latina woman, I really do not like the way gang-affiliated (hell all of them) Blacks treat Latino people. They will kill you if you walk certain areas in California and NY. They abuse the system and I have to pay for their social services that they don't deserve."

I recognize how horrible this sounds, and I hope you do too.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterV

Dobbs also spends more time talking about Hispanic illegals b/c they make up the largest single group.


Even so, no excuse for glorifying border shooters and the media extremism he displays.

Its hate, no matter how you want to spin it.


your presence on this blog and advocacy for such employment of tactless and base rhetoric is an example of that underlying hate and merits the backlash rightfully deserved from the sane 70% of the evolving nation.


You've traded your noose and sheets in for a night-time cable TV news show...

Res Ipsa Loqitur

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterkrystal

@ V

what about asian people?

anyhow, so what is your solution for illegal immigrants?

the people criticizing lou dobbs need to get some business. he doesn't think that latinos are the problem. he thinks that illegals are the problem. it just so happens that 83 percent of illegals are latino. that's 10 million illegal latinos in this country. that's less than 1/4 of the total latino population.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterswiv

Job seeking or not, if you enter and remian in this country without the proper paperwork you are here ILLEGALLY and need to go! I don't care if you're brown, yellow, white or purple! I'm sick of hearing that illegal immigrants are only "seeking a better life". Hell, some drug dealers are "seeking a better life", it still doesn't make what they do legal and neither does putting a fancy name on ILLEGAL immigrants.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAnother V

After watching Lou Dobbs racist show, I stopped watching CNN. Everytime I see the CNN logo, I feel a bit nauseous. I have this emotional memory thing going (don't we all?). I hear racism, I see the CNN logo, I feel bad, I associate the bad feeling and memory of Dobbs' racism with the logo and WA-LAH! Can't watch CNN anymore without the bad feelings coming to the forefront. Bad feelings are now attached to the CNN logo.

I did this with Rush Limbaugh, if I have to hear his show, I make sure that I listen to the commercials carefully so that the bad feelings I get from Rush will transfer onto the products being advertised. To this day, I still can't bring myself to buy Advil, an advertiser on one of Rush's shows that I heard in Los Angeles a few months ago. I see Advil and I feel bad that they support the likes of racist Rush, so I choose a different brand.

Of course the corporations know how advertising works, however, I don't know if they are aware that there are folks like me out there who consciously use this mechanism to help decide what products to purchase.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMaggie Knowles

swiv-- Of course I meant asian too. :) It got lost in the typing.

I don't believe there is a "solution" to illegal immigration. It's impossible to drop a SWAT, round up, and deport all undocumented immigrants, and Joe Arpaio/Lou Dobbs style demonization of their families is dangerous. I am all for comprehensive immigration reform and pathways to citizenship for long-time residents.

No one would mind Dobbs' opposition to illegal immigration if he wasn't so inflammatory and insulting to entire communities of people. Most Latinos in the United States are legal Americans, and resent the constant incitement to xenophobia.

The problem with calling people "illegals" is that you are using the word to define a person. If you made a bad left turn, should I always refer to you as an "ILLEGAL"? If you smoked marijuana in college, are you an "ILLEGAL"? Not all laws protect you from danger, and not everyone who does something "illegal" is a dangerous criminal whom you should fear and hate.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterV

We should have open borders for people and controlled borders for corporations.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMaggie Knowles

what if the residents bypassed the conventional means? and what does comprehensive reform mean? does anyone who is calling for it know what the process is? and in changing the process, does that mean people will stop bypassing it?

this word "comprehensive" doesn't mean anything to people who don't know the process as it stands. to sit there and say we have to change it, you have to know what you're changing. as someone who has gone through the process and whose parents have gone through the process, i think there's nothing wrong with the way it is now. to give these people who bypass the system amnesty is a slap in the face of everyone who does it properly.

you can refer to them however you want. a person making an illegal left turn is commiting an illegal act. a one time act. by virtue of an illegal alien being in a country where they're not legally allowed to be in, they're continuously commiting an illegal act by just being there.

if 3/4 of the latinos are legal residents, then they need to fall back because dobbs isn't talking about them. possibly about people they might know, but not them. and he is correct on his stance. citizenship shouldn't be something given away.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterswiv

Scott, I realize America can't afford open borders. But we don't need Dobbs' demagoguery and muckraking on a nightly basis. It fuels hatred and anger.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Wise

just because you disagree with him doesn't mean he's prejudiced. he's stating his opinion and basing it in fact. bleeding hearts are hilarious.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterswiv

Your argument about a single-time offense versus continuous offense is meaningless unless you want to criminalize existence in the United States. The act of being here without paperwork is a single offense. If these immigrants are not costing you anything tangible, your objections are also superfluous. And to suggest that Latinos living here legally need to "fall back" is somewhat bigoted in itself-- why shouldn't they have an opinion on something they likely know personally?

Lou's opinions include that Mexican illegal immigrants are diseased lepers flooding our prisons and trying to conquer the Southwest. None of that is "based in fact", and all of it causes prejudice. Obviously you either haven't seen his show or you also believe these easily disproved things are true.

Defenders of extremists and conspiracy theorists like Dobbs would be hilarious-- if they weren't so dangerous to our humanity and liberty.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterV

Hi everybody, it is sad that today almost a year after the historic election, there are still people that spreads hate to minorities, Lou Dobbs has a similar technique to the one used by Joseph Goebbels (Propaganda Minister) to attack the Jew community in the Nazi Germany, we all know the rest of this sad history. Lou Dobbs uses the “Big Lie” technique of propaganda, which is based on the principle that a lie, if audacious enough and repeated enough times, will be believed by the masses. The “Big Lie” technique against the immigrant population by accusing us in many different ways “we are trying to destroy America”.

September 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterErG

Having practiced immigration law, the US legal system with regard to immigrants is pretty bad. It is incredibly expensive and designed to allow only certain groups in, mostly those that are not of color. I have yet to hear Lou Dobbs talking about Russian immigrants or German immigrants or those from the UK. You will not, and THAT is a big part of the problem is the racism that is inherent in the rhetoric. Which is immigrants of color are less desirable than those from the UK or other European nations. Glad we are finally exposing him for the closeted KKK Nazi he is.

September 19, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterbdsista

How does this man sleep in the bed and stay married everyday to a woman of Latin heritage and then come on TV and talk about Latinos like he does. He is one sick SOB.

September 19, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterKhrish

For Lou Dobbs, "Give Me Your Tired Your Poor" means give me your European tired and poor. While we have to stop illegal passage into the United States, Lou Dobbs rantings largely center around minorities. He is a Birther. He has been trying to wipe ACORN off the face of the earth for years. Now he's hanging around FAIR.

Look, I get it. Many whites don't like the fact that they will soon become a minority in a land that was originally inhabited by the Indigenous peoples of the Americas (smile)

September 19, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterElaine

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