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Monday
09Nov2009

Question of the Day: The Battle Over Precious - Art Or Exploitation?

I've been reading a lot of varying views about the new Tyler Perry/Oprah Winfery backed film "Precious." Everything from criticism of it being exploitive from Armond White to a recent Root article criticizing the young lead actress' weight.

As some of you probably already know, "Precious" is based on the book "Push" by poet Sapphire and tells the story of a sexually, emotionally and physically abused overweight black teen, set in the late-1980s inner city. White probably had one of the more interesting (and in some parts, maddening) critique of the film. He labels it as the "con job of the year," all but calling director Lee Daniels a sick pervert and Winfrey/Perry black poverty pimps.

Wait. He actually did kind of call them that. Saying that Daniels knows how to "turn a racial trick."

Of course, White praises the Eddie Murphy films "Meet Dave" and "Norbit" by comparison, jettisoning his argument to a certain extent. I mean, how can you trust the opinion of someone who thought Norbit passed the sniff test? But even a proverbial broken clock is right twice a day.

More after the jump.

From NY Press:

Not since The Birth of a Nation has a mainstream movie demeaned the idea of black American life as much as Precious. Full of brazenly racist clichés (Precious steals and eats an entire bucket of fried chicken), it is a sociological horror show. Offering racist hysteria masquerading as social sensitivity, it’s been acclaimed on the international festival circuit that usually disdains movies about black Americans as somehow inartistic and unworthy.

Sometimes White gets a little drunk on hyperbole in the review, but we get his point. He falls heavily on the exploitation end of the argument against "Precious."

The Root article is a little more frustrating because the author uses the lead actress' weight as a cudgel to beat people with over the obesity crisis. Because, how dare young actress Gabourey "Gabby" Sidibe be celebrated for being confident about her physical appearance! The only reason why I'm rolling my eyes at this argument is that NO ONE demonizes thin actors for either A) endorsing anorexia by being unhealthily thin, B) demonizes gorgeous actors for endorsing an impossible beauty standard on the public or C) demonizes actors who smoke for endorsing a killer habit that can actually hurt, not just themselves, but others, through second-hand smoke. So, unless author

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Saw Precious over the weekend and loved it. In films with a black cast it's damned if you do and damned if you don't. I'm just glad I was able to see on screen another dimension of the black experience. Armond White is going to be...well...Armond White. A dude with a purpose to rail his own people with a pen that's stuck way up his ass.

He doesn't speak for me and neither does Tyler Perry or Oprah Winfrey. I speak for myself as a black person. Abuse happens....and people will always cry "exploitation" when their own pockets aren't being lined....

whatevs.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterCall it what you want.

My husband and I work in the alternative medicine field (he is a hypnotherapist) and 95% of our clients happen to be white. That having been said, I can honestly say that 85% of the women who come in suffer from issues having to do with incestuous rape. "Precious" is most definitely not a black exploitative movie! I read the book by Sapphire, "Push," and came away with a heart-breaking understanding of how life can be in our society -- I did not view it as a black problem at all. What we need to ask is what would possess a person to commit crimes against children? This horror is so prevalent in our country it is sickening. Yet, we sit back and allow our little girls to be hyper-sexualized through the media, clothing manufacturers and the like. The movie "Precious" will be understood and appreciated by intelligent, open-minded socially progressive people -- not those who wish to continue to bury their heads in the sand.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAzariah

If the movie accurately portrays the book, why get upset? It seems to me that the people who are criticizing the movie are the same ones complaining that Bill Cosby supposedly aired black society's dirty laundry.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterScott

Saw Precious yesterday at Union Square in Manhattan.

I plan on doing a review later today, but let me flush out some of my thoughts here.

Like you I wanted to support the film, but didn't want to leave the theater emotionally spent from witnessing the ongoing emotional, physical, and sexual abuse that Precious endured. I think Daniels did a good job of keeping the film's heavy subject matter balanced with light humor, unfortunately for me, it came at the costly expense in impact. The sexual abuse was masked effectively, however, without the graphic nature of the incidents, I find that the audience missed identifying with just how miserable Precious' life was.

I saw the movie in a mixed crowd. I was bothered by some of the audience laughter at times. It was clear that some audience members were so amused by some scenes that they totally missed the relevance. When Precious steals a bucket of chicken, the humor of the scene doesn't allow the audience to really comprehend that the child eating for two and starving because her parent was not being a parent. When the students in the class were learning their ABCs at age 16, the humor took away from the dire circumstance that is teenage illiteracy. When Precious is forced by her mother to eat the plate of pigs feet because there was no collar greens, many people missed this force feeding scene as another extension of abuse by a mother who couldn't handle a daughter who was more physically fit than her.

Watching the movie in mixed company was eye opening. While I was not personally turned off by the appearance of Precious, it was clear that many audience members were. Daniels stayed very true to the book (which I liked) and the cast members were fantastic in their roles.

If you didn't read the book you will be more than pleased with the film.

However, for those who read the book and really got into the mind of this young girl and her circumstances (reading the book in illiterate broken English affords you access into the character that you just can't get from the movie), then you may find this cinematic attempt a bit underwhelming - lacking specifically the graphic nature that truly makes the story so heartbreaking and compelling.

All that said, I'm glad the movie did so well opening weekend.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMsBRG

Haven't seen the movie yet. At first I was debating on whether or not I wanted to see it because it seemed so depressing. But I believe art reflects reality and even though this movie may be disturbing, situations with abuse, weight, skin color, and poverty are very real and happen whether we want to accept it or not. I will go and see this movie just to support the effort by african-americans tackling a story that crosses racial lines.

I also find it disturbing how so many people, especially black people, are criticizing the appearance of the lead actress Gabby aka Precious. I've seen her doing interviews and she seems to be a very intelligent young lady. She apparently is a great actress b/c you can see a complete difference in her real personality and the character she portrays. And she is very beautiful. Just because she isn't Beyonce or Halle Berry's clone in her looks does not make her less a person and I wish people would stop judging her b/c of her weight and, the obvious, her skin complexion.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterHonee Bee

I still don't know if I'm going to see the movie, but I just bought the book and plan on reading it. I think I might wait to see it when it comes out on DVD.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterSA

Haven't seen the movie and am on the fence about going. I read the book and was very ... emotionally raw, for some time. Not sure I can actually watch the movie. Regarding the commentary - I think their is both silliness and validity in all. No, this is not the everyday life experience of the average Black family, but it is a reality for too many, Black and otherwise. The focus of their complaint is off. Rather than disparage this movie, what they really want and should be arguing for, is more visibility into just average Black people lives. After all, true equality is the right to be mediocre and succeed, too. Similarly, some Black folks need to hear that being a big girl/boy ain't healthy, but I don't think Villarosa needed go AT Gabby Sidibe to make the point. We all likely know plenty of big girls/guys who are not healthy but celebrate their largess. It is a valid concern, given the number of health related issues caused, or exacerbated, by being overweight, but targeting this young lady is the wrong way to go, especially because if I recall correctly, part of her weight issues were directly in response to the abuse.

so we'll see... maybe if I am in need of a good cry...

i am, however, more concerned about the limited ability to actually see the movie....

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterdivaliscious11

Hey there!

I saw the movie solo Friday night. I was seated between a white female (on a date with her white boo) and a black gay man (on a date with his boo). So I had the best of both commentary- or lack there of. lol. I too was a bit disturbed by the laughter coming from some audience members.(as someone pointed out above) I think though, it came out of either, discomfort, comfort or ignorance of the films content- or a mixture of all three. Either way, I found Precious to tell a fictional story based on a book. Period. True, the story probably pulled bits and pieces of someone's (or some people's) real life, but what story isn't?!

I don't get into debates about black movies and how we are depicted. We are so diverse in our lifestyles to claim that Precious or Madea are a blanket representations of who we really are is very bestowing to sterotypes and limiting. Movies are one (or a few) people's creative vision about what they (or someone else) writes. If you want to tell your 'black' story, get a screenwriter and go to work. Otherwise, I say to all the harsh critics to take a chill pill and watch Love Jones, The Princess and the Frog(in December), The Wiz, Are We There Yet, Why Did I Get Married or any other non-abbrasive, family/love black film to make yourself feel better.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDaydreamer

I can't wait to see Precious this weekend despite the controversial arguments. What maddens me is how we expect the few successful black filmmakers we have to carry the burden of all black people. So instead of being lauded for simply creating a great film they have to deal with comments like "Do we need another film about black pain??" Maybe or maybe not but if that's the story that THIS artist chooses to tell let him tell it. He can't carry the load of being everything to everybody. We need to instead focus on the barriers holding back other black filmmakers who want to make a black comedy (not Soul Plane or ShuckNJive Special), or a black horror, or a black thriller, or sci-fi. I mean come on! There's a place for all of these stories but don't down Daniels because he has a platform for HIS artist voice. Why get upset? Get inspired!

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAura

Oh and welcome to DC Snob!! I just discovered your blog about 2 months ago and have been reading it faithfully. I was way bummed when you went off-line last week. I can't wait to hear about experiences here. Let us know how you feel about go-go music. You have to love it in order to become an official card carrying member of our society! ;-)

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAura

I tend to shy away from Perry and Oprah films, but I do plan on seeing ‘Precious’. I can somewhat understand why people would have objection to yet another black film about black pain. I would agree it seems that when movies are about us they feature the extremes of rape and incest or buffoonery. But sometimes the stories of pain need to be told. That’s a problem with our community; we tend to hide from these issues. And if it’s a well made film that’s done artistically, I don’t see anything wrong with it.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterconni3

I, for one, will not see this movie.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Wise

I haven't seen the film and probably won't until it's on DVD.

White's article could've been half as long and he would've made his point. I can't believe he said Little Man was an "excellent" film. It's just staggering someone could launch such a tirade against Precious and then praise a low-brow film like that.

This all sounds a lot like the controversy that surrounded The Color Purple. Ultimately I think the film should stand on its own as an individual story of perseverance.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAntonio

I was not impressed with Mariah Carey's performance in Glitter, so I didn't pay attention to the promos for the movie and don't know anything about the book, Push. But last night I saw Larry King interview Mariah Carey. I was very impressed with Carey's performance in the clips and intend to see Precious soon.

@ conni3 wrote: "But sometimes the stories of pain need to be told." - agreed, and obesity and incest are problems that all races and classes experience.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMaggie Knowles

Yes, I want to see the movie "Precious", but I do not want to read the book; it might be too emotional for me, and I am even nervous about seeing the movie. I am happy this movie was filmed because many can relate to the issue of abuse and incest. Like someone previously mention, it is a story that needs to be told. I read an article in the New York Times about the movie, Lee Daniels said during a screening of the film in Colorado, a white woman stood up and said that was her story. Pain is universal; it has no color.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterHidi

this man is an entertainment commentator.

his career lacks credibility.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterswiv

to the people who were distrurbed at the laughter of some of the audience members.....

did you laugh at the same scene?

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterswiv

I still want to see the movie and read the book. I agree with an earlier poster it's "Damn if you do or damn if you don't" when it comes to movies with predominately black cast.

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterRainaHavock

I'm very hesistant to see the movie as I find it hard to believe the book can be done any justice on the big screen. It's a very emotional and deep story of disturbing abuse and neglect and the long road Precious took to overcome it. Admittedly I'm not a fan of anything Tyler Perry has ever touch, I hoped Oprah would help, however I'm not sure. I know it's been said before, but this is definitely a movie where the book must be read first. With all that being said, I'm on the fence about watching this movie.....

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterApril

Finally, we have a movie (about some harsh realities black people face daily alone) that tells the story of so many people looking for a way out of misery in a broken-down, burnt-out system. Its time to reorganize our country and get our people the real help that is necessary to save lives and build a competent generation with values. If you wish to live well, you must help others to live well. God loves all of us and forgives us for our sins because of the great love He has for mankind. Can't we try to solve problems instead of making things worse with our petty disagreements about who's who in society?

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterCheryl C.

I will see the movie on DVD. Based on Oprah's support of Chris Rock lately, I can't go on a sister's word. And what I've seen of Monique's late night show, from what i've seen of the previews that character wasn't too hard for her to play. Steve Harvey said "We got go be dignified, we can't just be ignorant...". I can't knock it until I see, but I've seen a lot of Black mom's destroy their kids due to their hatred for their children's fathers and themselves. See this ignorant story before in my community, will support it on video. I hope the movie has more value in the end than the hype of Monique getting an Oscar. "You never see our best, just who 'they' want us to see". Sounds familiar?

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAce

The AUDACITY!

How dare Gabby Sidibe even dream to be a movie star! As we all know, "real" movie stars are your Halle Berrys, Beyonces, Boris Koejoes, Morris Chestnuts, Terrence Howards,etc. Dark-skinned fat girls are not supposed to be celebrities; they are ones who are supposed to be perpetually miserable, sad, and home stuffing their faces in front of the TV pining away looking at said 'beautiful' celebs coveting their success. Fat girls like her do not become movie stars; they are not supposed to have fun, or hope or dream like other people. Fat girls shouldn't be happy with themselves as they are or have high self-esteem; because they're FAT for God's sake. Fat girls are laughed at, ridiculed, and pitied. They are considered lazy, stupid, and will never be loved by a man. People are disgusted by them. And as in the Root article by writer Alicia Villarosa states, we should not celebrate Sidibe's size, only her performance.

Strange...I thought that was what we WERE doing...praising her performance--Villarosa is the only one harping on her size. And what the writer missed is, only someone who has self-love is capable of making the necessary changes in their life to be healthy. And what makes her think Sidibe hasn't already started trying to lose weight?

How in the world did Gabby Sidibe slip though Hollywood's demanding criteria for its 'beautiful people?'

COURAGE AND AUDACITY!!!!!

The Villarosas of the world are incensed when someone is bold enough to break down the barriers of the 'status quo'.
Gabby dares to love herself; she dared to give her dream a shot, encouraged by a loving, supportive mother, even when she didn't think she had a chance in hell to get the part. And impressed director Lee Daniels enough to take a chance on her. She didn't disappoint. The people in "Precious" DO exist, whether we wish to acknowledge them or not.
The movie is unapologetically harsh and real....and BRILLIANT!

Gabby isn't dumb, lazy or ugly. She is a lovely, talented and intelligent young woman on the ride of her life and on her way the Oscars. Gabby has defied, once again, all the fat stereotypes; as did Mo'Nique, and Queen Latifah. And she is bold and brave, and not letting her weight stop her from living her life. She refuses to hide and be the 'poor, pathetic and sad 'fat girl.' As for her weight, I do wish she loses some of the weight. Not to please or placate the naysayers and the sanctimonious blatherings of the 'fat police'; but for her to be truly healthy and get all roles she can while working as an actress--and no that doesn't mean getting down to a size '2'.

God bless her! And as for Villarosa and ones like her using the obesity epidemic to take cheap shots at heavy people to hell with them...you're not helping the cause and as Snob stated, people will not jump up and lose weight just because you try scare tactics or berate them....

November 9, 2009 | Registered CommenterPhillyTeri

That girl can have all of courage and audacity in the world, but when I see the movie and if it sucks - it sucks. PhillyTerri, you seem to be the one making this child out to be ugly. She's blessed. Like I said, "I seen this ignorant story before in my community". Rather it was the little boy with the curley hair that ended up in prsion or the cute fast girl with no self-esteem that got pregnant in high school. Just make a movie about a fat girl doing something positive. Haven't seen the movie, she probably would have fareed well in a starter movie like "Akeelah and the Bee". Its going to be hard to break that type-cast if she did too well. People will feel pity rather than apprecaition. Good luck to all the fat girls, skinny girls, light girls, dark girls, mullattoes, whatever, just glad you all working, sisters!

November 9, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAce

Haven't had the chance to see the film yet only the promos. But I tend to agree with the first poster. We're damned if we do, damned if we don't.

November 10, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterKhrish

Well, there have been excellent reviews and commentary supporting the film on Racialicious.com which is a site featuring a collection of blogs about racial issues, pop culture, etc. I plan on seeing it. I have heard nothing but good things and would challenge Tim Wise to see it if for no other reason, than to broaden his perspective. There is room in the community for many of our stories and they cannot all be wonderful. Racialicious also talks about how some of the cast changes take away from part of the authors message. i.e. substituting a white actress for a black character in the book (I think a teacher) which takes away from the role that the teacher plays in helping Precious learn to love her own Blackness as opposed to thinking that her life would be better if she were white.

I haven't seen it yet, but it seems to embody many messages that girls of color carry about themselves. I work in a middle school and see first hand how girls get messages that they are ok or not based on hair type, skin color, weight, etc. I feel if you have any committment to young women, then you need to see a slice of what some child's life is like. Otherwise you are engaging in wilful ignorance.

November 10, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterbdsista

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